Water stands for change – Morgan’s favorite place to meditate
Everyone, please remember the Dr. Phil show tomorrow. I can’t say I know what it will really focus on, but I know that Morgan Ingram was a big part of it and that warms my heart more than I can ever express. She was an amazing young woman and I will be honored to meet her again someday. Please share this with all of your friends. Stalking is serious and can be lethal. Dr. Phil is reaching out to help the victims of stalking, if you are one or know one, give them your full support. And know that Steve and I will help you in any way we can!!
Toni I have it set to record and Morgan is the MAIN segment it looks like. Was K’s GF on the show with you? If so I think you guys are the whole show.
No, it was just Steve and I and ? and ?’s dad on stage with Dr. Phil
I have Dish and live in CA and my DVR tells me that the show will air Tuesday Nov. 13th and not Monday. Be sure to check tuesday’s show in case you don’t see it Monday.
I have to say I am an avid watcher of the Dr. Phil show. I record it everyday. That being said I was very surprised and apparently I am not the only one, I feel as though Dr. Phil didnt ask enough questions. He is known for getting the whole story out and asking the hard questions. I feel as though all he did was make sure we all knew his opinion on his other guests being wrongfully accused and it drove me crazy.. Why didnt he ask them that during Morgans stalking days were they ever questioned by the police, or if the police ever went to their home to see where those accusers were? I felt as though when asked the only a few questions she showed no emotion, asked where was the proof, and even saw a few eye rolls. It shocks me that Dr. Phil didnt dig deeper and honestly didnt even see the point as to why there were there, they hardly even spoke.
I am not one to comment online but I cant stop thinking about this. I hope that someday soon your family will be able to get justice at least have the case reopened. Know that alot of people are thinking and praying for your family.
Omg!! I just saw The Dr Phil show. What the hell is wrong with Dr Phil. Why didn’t he make Brook and her father take lie detector tests? Dr Phil almost always has people that claim their innocence take them. Brook looked very nervous, she was shaking her foot when Dr Phil was asking her if she had anything to do with your daughters death.
I’m very sorry for your loss and want to tell you not to give up the fight for the truth !! I hope and pray that a real investigator can prove that this girl and her accomplices are guilty and pay for what they’ve done. Don’t listen to anyone, you do what you KNOW is in your heart. I’m a mother of a wonderful 20 yr old son and would do the same thing you are doing.
Hugs to you and your family. Never give up!! If there’s anything I can do let me know. With loving thoughts and prayers.
Jennifer Costanzo Druzisky
I think Dr. Phil was trying to redeem himself from past shows where he was too quick to assume someone was guilty as accused w/too little evidence. Worse, I think he is biased and such important matters become about what HE believes and HIS OWN opinion, whether ill-formed or not. That is irresponsible IMO. I do understand his desire not to have anything to do w/a young girl being accused of murder if it did turn out she was innocent, but as a stalking victim, I am fully aware of what their kind are capable of. The stuff they do makes any sane person sound mad when trying to explain it.
i have Time Warner cable and i just checked the guide and it is on monday’s airing. i would think it would be the same for Dish Network.
Just got done watching the Dr. Phil show. It was good and i am glad you got more support for reopening the case. I hope it helps.
Watching Dr. Phil My heart goes out to your family.
I am mad for you that the other blogger got on there and said what she did. I know and se just from reading the blog that your sweet Morgan was murdered and they dropped the ball. Praying as a mom that you find peace and justice for Morgan.
Me too! For her to say that the Ingrams were having dillusions about the stalking makes me sick! She was not there and did not experience any of it. I mean, all your journals and video’s you have were all for fun I guess? Because everyone wants to spend their time doing that for no reason. YOu will get a lot of negativity. But you and your husband know what the truth is. Stay strong. It will be investigated again.
I am watching it now and it is the first time I have heard of Morgan’s story. I’m so sorry for your loss. I have lost a child too, different reasons, but the heart ache is constant and overwhelming.
I live in ontario Canada and a few years back 4 people were arrested for a murder 10 years prior of a teenager. This boys mom fought for ten years saying he didn’t “fall asleep on the train tracks” or commit suicide.
Good luck to you and your family in finding justice for your daughter.
Xo
Toni, I just watched the dr phil show. I think that you should suggest that ? take a lie detector test. it might clarify somethings for you.
I’m watching the show right now and the part where Dr. Phil asks ? if she harassed her in anyway and she said no and then looked down and swallowed right away, to me that is a sure sign of her lying! People will never hold eye contact when lying.
I also wanted to add that you have so much more information that we do not. Just from a few things you mentioned in the show about things that were said on FB around the time of her death, to me proves so much! People give so much info on social sites and they should not be taken lightly. I though the show was good. Don’t take your blog down and you have every right to think who is guilty. I do understand how it could affect the “accused” in fearing for their lives. Morgan had that fear bestowed upon her and her life was taken. I know you showed other video’s of the people around your house on the show. Will you be posting those videos on this blog?
You shouldn’t take down your blog! You should keep pressing on!
Well, not only the fact that she looked down – she also answered how she felt about being accused by asking about proof rather than an honest, heart felt denial. Then she was asked if she had reason to kill her and she again answered with a question stating something like “why would I” . Keep pressing on guys and expose her! Karma and “the secret” come to mind … By the way, I am very sorry for your loss.
Very true! If I was being accused I would be crying my eyes out if I was innocent. I would show emotion! She had none. I also loved how she was mad that Toni mentioned about her beating up a girl and having issues with drugs. That girl is trouble.
This girl ? is so guilty of “SOMETHING”.
Chyntia I am right There with you, she is guitly of something. I was waiting for a polygraph test to be done for her to proof her innocense, which Dr. Phil always seems to do but surprisingly not in This case.. What made me suspicious is when she was confronted with the allegations she said ” Where is her proof, or There is No proof” something to That nature.
We r watching it rite now in cali may god help u find peace and justice for ur daughters death
She is guilty. Just in her statement “where’s the proof” which in my opinionwas stated in a semi-taunting voice. Also, at the end when you brought up the FB posts and her only response was “but your not stalking my FB huh?” How is that a normal response? Seemed to me like they avoided a lot of things, and weren’t very passionate in arguing that she had nothing to do with it. Even if Morgan commited suicide which I don’t believe… Somebody harassed her to get her to that point. If cyber bullies can be blamed for a suicide how is it possible that a live stalker every few nights/mornings can’t?? Show had me infuriated… Does anybody know what the bloggers career was??
Wow, I saw the same thing… when Dr. Phil asks “her” if she had ever stalked or harrassed your daughter in any way, her body language doesn’t exactly make her appear too honest about her response. My heart so goes out to your family and I truly hope that the appearance on this national show will aid in a high priority investigation… one that should have been done in the first place! I’ll agree that some of the things I heard on the show really don’t add up on both sides of the fence but hey, its only a one hour show. No doubt there are sooo many details that were not heard. What I do know is that a mother has that instinct in her to know when things just aren’t right concerning her baby(s) and that’s enough for me to want this case opened again. Blessings to the family, I wish you well… and justice to prevail. ~Shine~
I watched the show and I don’t believe a thing they said. It seemed to me as if the “show me the proof” line she said was said in a taunting manner. I think her dad honestly believes he is protecting his daughter though. When you called her out on her FB posts and she said “and thats not you stalking my FB?” funny that she avoided answering what you had asked huh? I feel like in a way there response to everything seemed very staged. The show had me angry and so heartbroken for your family. I lived in Rifle and I could never imagine this happening in that area. but, it does, and obviously did. Maybe Morgan did commit suicide (which I doubt) but, even it was still the stalker that drove her to this point. I think if they want to prove innocence she would have volunteered for a lie dectector test!
I am upset by how dr. Phil handled this situation. He seemed to taunt this family who has already gone through so much instead of really questioning the accused stalker. My heart goes out to your family and hope justice gets served. The girl and father seemed obviously guilty to me
Ummmm why didn’t Dr. Phil give her a lie detector test!? Ugh I was so hoping for that! Sorry for your loss guys. Was she your only child?
I almost wonder if they refused to take a lie dector test? What do you think they would have done if they failed?!?!. Maybe Dr. Phil and his staff didn’t want that hanging over their heads. Would they even air that if they failed? I mean that would start something huge!
I was watching the show from alabama, and the part where the girl is asked if she did anything she didn’t say “No” She said “I would say Show me the proof” That to me is a guilty answer…not sure exactly what she’s guilty of, but just because it hasn’t been proved, doesn’t mean you’re innocent. I couldn’t look at her the same after that comment, it made me sick. I think the show was basically trying to not take sides, but I believe in your case, and I think something happened to her, I’m not sure who did what, but I pray that they open an investigation into your daughters death. No suicide note? No bottle of pills, no one coming forward saying she used drugs, NOTHING! it just doesn’t make sense and I’m sorry that the investigators dropped the ball. You are in my prayers tonight and I pray that God give you some peace and comfort for your soul…I hope it makes you feel better knowing that you shared your daughters story and touch the hearts of many people you will never meet and I pray for Justice for Morgan!
why wasn’t any questions asked that were more about the subject to ?… I don’t understand why toni was being nagged… I think ? deff has a part in it. she has no emotion…. I hope you find justice….
SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. I ALSO HAVE A DAUGHTER SHE IS 21 & I WOULD BE JUST LIKE YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND. DON’T GIVE UP. I SEEN DR PHIL AND I DO BELIEVE ? KNOWS MORE THAN SHE WILL ADMIT TO. LIARS CANNOT LOOK YOU IN THE FACE. SHE DID NOT. SHE LOOKED DOWN WHEN ASKED QUESTIONS. TRY TO GET A LIE DETECTOR TEST FOR HER. IF SHE PASSES IT WOULD SHOCK ME AND A LOT OF OTHERS. HER SAYING ABOUT NOT HAVING PROOF JUST SAYS IN SMARTASS WAY SHE GOT AWAY WITH MURDER. AND AGAIN I AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. DON’T GIVE UP, AND DON’T DELETE THE BLOG LIKE DR PHIL SUGGESTED. UNLESS SHE PASSES THE LIE DETECTOR TEST.
RIP MORGAN
I noticed the same thing about ? when she answered that question. I think she knows more than she is telling. She may not have been the one directly responsible for Morgan’s death, but I think she knows what happened.
Toni, don’t take the blog down. You would not have come as far as you have without it.
Lisa I won’t – I will keep going forward. Steve and I will never give up just like I know you would never give up. The truth needs to be revealed!
I am in the UK do you know how I could go about watching the episode?
Toni, I wanted to share with you a conversation I was having with an ex boyfriend who only met Morgan a few times, while I was watching the show. And I got his permission to share this with you. It was through text, so I’m just going to transcribe it for you.
(This is mid conversation, so sorry for the awkward starting point.)
Him: Without knowing how kickass Morgan was, it’s impossible to really understand.
Me: Yeah. I mean, I know she never would’ve killed herself, but it’s hard to convince people of that.
Him: Never. Never never never. I hardly knew her and I can say that with certainty. She was an amazing pperson, and far from suicide.
Me: Exactly. But, it’s so easy for people who never knew her to assume that since that’s what the autopsy report now says. I’ve had people tell me that you don’t always see the signs with suicide but Morgan wasn’t that person. I can’t think of a single time I ever saw her truly sad.
Him: I’ve been suicidal, and that wasn’t her
Just wanted to show you that even someone who barely knew her could see that she wouldn’t do that. Love you guys.
My heart breaks for you. I watched Dr. Phil yesterday and sadly he had his mind made up before he ever spoke to y’all. It seemed irresponsible to me. He did a awful lot of checking into Morgan’s background but didn’t for anyone else? At the very least after looking at it all you have to say all the stuff that happened is hinky. Maybe you can’t say for sure what happened but when you look at it all you have to think hmmm that’s strange. A lot of strange things things and coincidences add up to a big ???. He never acted like there was anything to it. How helpless it must. feel. Who was theat blogger lady Andrea, what makes her a credible person to interview? They may as well interviewed me.. I can read too. and she seemed to know a lot more than a regular blog reader. HMMM another hinky thing. I think you have had no choice but to speak up to get an investigation, if its is properly investigated and they prove that those kids had no responsibility in it then she will be ok and she can go on being the victim. I am frustrated that someone wont just listen.. even he didn’t . I honestly can’t say I know what happened but you have enough here to warrant an investigation in my opinion. You and your husband need to hold on to each and lean on each other. You have supporters regardless of Dr. Phil. Who in general I enjoy most of the time because of the way he asks questions. He didn’t ask them anything.
I would keep going with the blog. I am very sorry for the loss of your wonderful daughter. I hope that the truth eventually comes out. I felt like the girl who allegedly was involved was deceptive in her answers to Dr. Phil’s questions. BTW this is indigo ribbon month- for victims of group stalkling.
Yeah def. keep the blog… I would just not inform on here or anyone that you might have any or new findings because the ones responsible could then get smarter to avoid anything that comes up as proof or etc. so in that way of thinking I would agree with Phil… You know stop just in case… But I would never give up on justice for my daughter… I would keep this blog as a way to remember her and for those responsible to know and have a guilty conscious of there wrong doings/ or contribution in her death/stalking
God bless y’all and I do agree… What happened Phil?!!!! You always put pressure on people?!!! But… At the same time he would not like to be part of a bullying type person by accusing/asking …since he is so against it… And because there really isn’t proof… But if you have a fatherly and motherly instinct … Don’t stop… Someone might come forward soon…. A car can only drive so long with certain things like gas and oil change … But once the transmission blows out… It’s only a matter of time for the car to never work again… The one(s) responsible will Har a breaking point… The mind will not shut off or block that and a guilty conscious will eventually hit a rock bottom … I also think the neighbors were rude because they were more angry than mournful and the chick is like… I did not kill this girl… She could have been a bit more sympathetic and maybe even begged you to forgive her if she ever hurt your daughter but she would never do anything harmful… But no instead… She behaved immature and rude… If you think she had something to do with it or knows what really happened**** then…you obviously know more about her then the world and trust that feeling and don’t stop… Hopefully… The answers you seek soon come out…
Also a big key in all of this is the one person who did not go …
Is there a link that we can watch online?
I watched the Dr Phil show about Morgan’s case that girl looked so guilty and like she is hiding something. Keep trying you will figure this all out
I found it quite interesting that in 2 accounts from the actual police reports, LE stated that ? was nervous and seemed to be withholding information. HER BODY LANGUAGE MONDAY AND HER SNARKY ANSWERS SEALED THE DEAL FOR ME. SHE KNOWS SOMETHING.
09/03/11 Deputy G. Choinkowski “…She also appeared a little nervous.”
November 27, 2011 Robert Glassmire “During the interview, based on training and experience, I noted that it seemed as if ?**** was withholding information about our investigation. It seemed as if ?**** had additional information that she was not willing to tell us.”
I watched Dr Phil on Monday about Morgan’s stalking. I am very disappointed with Dr Phil, whom I normally really like and agree with when he’s demanding on answers whether he makes someone cry or not, but I think on this one, he too dropped the ball just as your local authorities have!! His focus was just ‘off’ to me..he lost sight of why you guys were there and why ? and her dad were there..he accomplished NOTHING in my opinion!
I’m annoyed, severely, that Dr Phil brought up how Morgan ‘supposedly’ tried cocaine and how she was on a prescribed drug at one point and that was found in her system – what he lost focus on was that she had many things in her system according to what you have found out through autopsy and in my opinion, people who commit suicide DO NOT use a number of pills, injections, etc, you usually hear how they OD’d on a particular substance be it a bottle of pills, heroine, etc. but not well they took 20 of this and 10 of this and shot herself up with 50cc’s of this… really Dr Phil?? Dr Phil made me very angry even talking about the possibility that Morgan decided to shoot herself up with so much stuff…wow, I’m so disappointed in him over this whole thing and he is one of my favorites to watch.
? looks guilty of something and maybe it’s not that she was there when Morgan’s life was taken but she knows who was and knows what happened, I’m convinced of it! Her body language was that of a guilty liar (and she is a bad one!). Sitting down and first question she answers with “where’s the proof”?? only a smart ass, guilty young kid would answer that way! Her lack of emotion, wiggling and lack of eye contact is that of a guilty liar as well!! It seemed to me she had to focus in her mind to keep eye contact with Dr Phil when speaking and the minute she was done, she’d look down or look away. At one point she answered him and immediately looked away and swallowed hard and that to me says she answered untruthfully. Again, not sure she was there for the actual murder BUT she maybe, in my opinion, obtained the drugs for whomever and she knows who ‘whomever’ is and she is hiding something and withholding information. I feel the same with her dad, he knows something and he’s protecting his daughter and it’s obvious.
I hope an investigation is reopened for you and Steve in to Morgan’s death. I think if I were sitting in your position, as a mom I’d probably have been locked up for losing control with authorities because I wouldn’t have the patience and tolerance you two seem to have! I commend you for how you both keep it together cause I’d be a raging lunatic!!
I will close for now but could go on for hours! Toni, I hope you and Steve someday get justice for your beautiful daughter Morgan. Keep pushing on and never give up..get the closure you need and right now don’t have. Dr Phil says “you need to allow yourself to grieve” well, that would be easier if you had closure and he of all people knows that! I will continue to follow this blog as I have from day one of your blogging. Love and hugs to you, Steve and your family/friends and sending hugs to Heaven for Morgan!
Toni and Steve, I’m so very sorry for your loss. Morgan was an amazing woman and both of you are amazing too. I am hoping and praying for these disgusting monsters to be caught, for the LE in your county to start actually doing their jobs and to start empowering their officers rather than hinder them, and for your success with finding justice for Morgan. When that is done, for your continued success to helping the victims of stalkers. You have already taught me so much.
Keep on keepin on Mama Bear. Love and hugs to your family.
I too saw the Dr Phil show and was disapointed that for whatever reason Dr Phil didnt do or say certain things Ive seen him do or say on other shows where there is a situation like this BUT I do think it just being out there helps! I had my own as Ive noted before “mom hairs” that said something isnt right,theres more to the story than both sides are sharing…the parents Im sure partly because of nerves (at least thats how I would think Id feel) and time. Theres obv SO much more, more than Im sure Toni has been able to post. Toni I dont know if you have given thought to this but I think Morgan got her creative writing gift from her mom! You have such an eloquent way of sharing and Im wondering if this blog could be turned into a book and would allow you to also add more facts and info you have said you havent gotten into yet.I would find it vauable to have a “timeline” of sorts so readers and anyone potential investigator can see the progression and also be able to note the chain of events. Then proceeds can help the cause of finding Morgans killer as well as get the word out. I have to say I have read and seen tons of cases and such on tv and I cannot get this awful case, get Morgan out of my head…my heart…my thoughts..my prayers and has had such a profound effect on me which on one hand strikes me but then again its no wonder because a beautiful, gifted, young full of life happy woman lost her life and it didnt have to happen. Our world lost out on her potential, her desire to give and contribute, to achieve success,tap into her creative “juices” constantly, to live life to the fullest even in the scariest and stressful situations– we ALL can learn from that. I am a believer that God has a plan and will use things like this for good. That He turns evil to good,as the bible talks about. I think He has already has in many ways despite no resolution yet, even if its just in my own life, but can by reading comments know its gone far beyond “me.” I have confidence that because this story continues to make its way out and beyond, its not over! There is so much we can take from this but maybe more importantly we can give back by living as Morgan did and I know personally I would like to help in some way to change laws,initiate laws that dont exist though I quite frankly I dont quite know how to do such a thing yet. So Toni if you read this, I would like to offer my help to initiate change– I LOVE the idea of “Morgans Law” as you said and although Im only one 40 yr old woman and mom with 3 kids (1 of which is a beautiful 20 yr old daughter) who shares Morgans love and passion for dogs, nature, writing, as well as wanting to live life fuly and abundantly; “carpe diem!” as I say which means “Seize the day!” I humbly offer my support and encouragement, as well as love and many, many, many prayers.xoxo
Toni, a few of my co-workers have been following your blog since the beginning. I was looking forward to the Dr. Phil show, hoping it would lead to some insight or bring awarness. After the show, I felt like they didn’t do a good job of telling about morgan’s story. I felt like Dr. Phil was almost doubting you and the whole thing and it just felt like things went in circles. I really hope, one way or another some justice comes out of this for Morgan. I will add and agree ?’s body language said a lot = guilty of something. She put off a very rude and cold attitute.
Why didn’t they interview ? (K) What has been his response to everything? He seems so out of the picture now.
We are thinking of you always and praying for your family.
I have said this before maybe not in the blog but this was by far the worst Dr Phil show I have seen in a very long time. Most the time he acts totally opposite and basically assumes and asks the accused guilty party how they can possibly be innocent. Like most said I believe Her father was doing what he feels if right and supporting his daughter. However the silhouette of the women walking by looks a lot like her and they are definitely wearing heels, not plan in gin being outside for too long, they are very nonchalant as well. They don’t seem to be concerned about being seen. To me it’s very clear after reading this blog that you aren’t just a mother missing her daughter, you are fighting for her and for someone to take responsibility not only for her death but all the mistakes that were made during this so called investigation. Someone needs to say I dropped the ball. You should have access to every single piece of paper in each and every file from the police reports, detectives, autopsy. It is all public information especially since the case is closed. Possibly even receiving phone records with a court order which can track location of the suspects. I don’t see why this wasn’t done or maybe it was. It’s pretty easy to do for the police especially compared to surveilence. If K was at work then his phone should show a different tower for reception. I think Dr Phil should do another show and try to show your story from your perspective not from a defensive point.did he not read the blog?
OMG.. All I have to say is.. That girl scares me! She not only looks guilty, but she looks evil! Wow. There is something evil going on with her. If anyone is in denial, it’s her dad! God help him. I think he has a psychopath in his hands and he’s protecting and enabling her! Open your eyes, dad!!!
And wow, Dr. Phil… WHY didn’t you continue talking about the Facebook posts?!?!?! If that was YOUR daughter, it would have been a different story, huh?!