Bird feeder in the Aspen tree by the front door
During these four days it starts with me telling the story, in place of the usual retelling of the story. Just like with every other blog post I look through, there are things no person should ever have to have, like an event recorder log, that time stamps every stalker event and saves texts, a surveillance camera log, and my trusty day runner. And, it took me a while to see it, but there it was…I had them all. I wish with all my heart that I hadn’t needed them.
A little something, that was not so bad, unmistakably surfaced over this four day period. Over and over there are notes about the “little green car” – being gone, not there, don’t remember noticing it. And almost within twenty-four hours of it being gone, Morgan’s activities picked right back up. She was talking with her friends, making plans, saying, hey you, long time no…
For victims of stalking I take this as a good sign, no make that a great sign. Morgan was strong, but she was also becoming scared from this ordeal. And when I read back through this four day period of time, I really had the feeling at that time that he was really gone, for whatever reason. I tried to convince myself that she was no longer being stalked and that she knew it had ended. And she would go back to living life, as it used to be lived, as soon as she was able. Sadly, that was not to be.
Then in the early hours of the 13th, between 3:30 – 4:00 am it started again, Morgan heard tapping or pebbles thrown against her bedroom window again, and sent me a bubble on my phone, then sent a text to clarify the timing. Our motion alarm covering her side of our house went off at 5:15 am. Steve had installed two new wildlife cameras tonight. At 1:15 pm I sent Detective Glassmire a text, “Just wanted you to know Morgan heard tapping or pebbles on her bathroom window at around 3:30 – 4:00 am this morning and our motion alarm went off on her side of the house (where your wildlife cams are located) and it went off at 5:15 am. Just need to run some errands so please call or text me on this cell phone when you know you are coming over as I would like to show you our new camera set up.” He sent a text back, “Okay, will do.” And I said, “thanks.”
Morgan texted a friend in the afternoon and went for a visit. She didn’t stay late, and I think we took her puppy and Tessi for a walk together. The leaves would have been almost out of the trees, and it would have been getting cold, that – “Oh it won’t be long before it’s snowing” time that you have to live through, a few times to really appreciate the meaning of it – the simple times.
Click here to read about the 74th day of Morgan’s stalking https://morgansstalking.com/?p=1656
Photos By Trail Camera
About a week ago you asked if stalking is under-reported. I believe it is seriously under-reported. I think people who haven’t been stalked or close to someone that has have a hard time understanding how serious, threatening, and dangerous it can be. I think because so many do not understand it they react as though it is not really happening or not a big deal- or maybe the victim did something to encourage it. The attitude of many reminds me of attitudes many had about rape and domestic violence when I was young. Even though most states have very specific and fairly strict laws/punishment for acts of stalking even many law enforcement people don’t seem to take it seriously- don’t want to call a series of incidents stalking…many expecting some violent action on the part of a stalker before they want to proceed even though the laws themselves are usually clear that one does not need to be specifically threatened or harmed in order for it to be considered stalking. I think this is why many do not report it, and I hope people will become more educated about stalking and especially those tasked with investigating and dealing with stalking from a legal standpoint. If there were a better understanding I believe more would report it. I have a feeling some people have messaged you about being stalked that have never told anyone else- or at least not reported it to authorities. I believe this blog will shed some much needed light on stalking, as hard as it must be for you to do it I think there will be positive results- justice for Morgan, and others in her shoes.
I agree Tammy – changes need to be made, people need to understand stalking, and victims need to be helped. Take care!
They have been dissing your daughter over at MyDeathSpace.com. What a perverse, offensive site frequented almost exclusively by thugs and closet necrophiliacs.
http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthread.php?25999-Morgan-Ingram-%2820%29-died-at-home-and-her-parents-insist-she-was-murdered-by-a-stalker
Mephisto I had never even heard of that site until now. Here’s the thing when you go public with something like this (like I have) you are going to get a lot of people that have nothing better to do then to read some things, and believe what they want. They don’t check and double check the facts they just believe them to be correct. I believe that in a way I must ignore people that want to create drama because their own world is boring – unfortunately my life has never been boring and right now it is absolutely chaotic trying to do everything Steve and I are trying to do in order to get Morgan’s case opened. It’s funny that people want all the evidence and responses from me right now when that is not going to get justice for Morgan – maybe I’m crazy, but I feel like if I go through all the right governmental channels, and give them the information then Morgan may still have a chance for justice. So thanks for sharing this information with me and thanks for all your support!
They are the exact same thing as Websleuth’s… the site investigates all kinds of deaths that are related to social media.
I don’t see a single post that is “dissing” Morgan… Your entire assessment is just wrong and down right insulting, infact many of the posters on that very link you posted said how they had huge sympathy for the parents and that they found the case frustrating!
I agree. No one is dissing Morgan or her family. We are just trying to help in all honestly, but sometimes to do that you have to go to places that maybe some questions or possible scenarios are hurtful but that is part of a good investigation, you gotta look at every possibilty! good or bad!
I too checked the link, and besides the rude, flat out unfounded assumptions that people who just decieded to read a few blogs, have made, I do see that a few people seem to truely care, and more eyes cant hurt. But, to come here and say that they are bashing Morgan or Toni, isn’t entirely the truth, and lets try to be real friends here and not say alarming or rude things to this family, if you feel something or someone is truong to harm Mogan’s name, speak up! Be her voice right there and then! Please don’t just come here to taddle to Toni about information that doesn’t further her cause, or serve to help find justice for Mogan. I apologize, again, for speaking out, where as I am not this grieving mother, but my heart broke reading that this was found on, then when I checked it for myself, I realized that the post was extremly exaggerated. I have no clue about the site, but the thread about Morgan seemed to come from a place of love, trying to help, yes people a few stupid comments, as they do here, but no need to bring it all on Toni, when you could have spoken up right then. I truely hope I’m not speaking out of place, but I feel if you allow compassion to rule your actions, then there is no need to further punish and victimize this family. As always, all of my love and respects to Toni & Steve.
You need to read the latter of the posts then. Every post is is insulting, especially to the family.
Toni, it seems that Morgan and ? had quite a few mutual friends. Have any of them come forward with info on ?’s feelings towards Morgan. I find it strange how they remain Facebook friends with ? given these serious allegations. What do you make of that.
I find it strange as well, and I know some of them have information they would like to share, and some of them have shared with us, but until we have an investigator that can interview them on the record, and it will hold up in court then I will have to wait. I have also heard there have been physical threats, made so of course I do not want to have someone spill the beans, and get injured just because they are helping Morgan’s case – I think once LE gets involved again then these people will feel like they have some protection. Because the intimidation of a witness at that time (when LE is involved) would most likely give the witness some protection from an attack, and if attacked the attacker would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law
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Witness intimidation is a real problem: few witnesses want to testify, nowadays it seems like (especially with the younger crowd) that if they lay low, don’t talk about things, act like they’re friends to all, and never become a “snitch” then they can just float through life without a hitch…unfortunately they are very wrong, but that is what I perceive a that is a real problem these days. When the harm faced by witnesses depends on whether or not the criminal is convicted, communities can be trapped in a state of denial with collective silence: no witnesses wants to testify because none expects others to testify.
What many people don’t realize is what a very small community this is. All of the KIDS who are raised here are connected to one another, from Aspen to Glenwood. And everybody is somebody’s little brother or sister, who has a connection to somebody else, etc etc. Yes there is infighting, and many territorial feuds that are simply understood without ever being spoken. That’s just how it works. And even if someone who was a “mutual” friend of Morgan and ? and Keenan has their suspicions, they are still KIDS who have to live in this community. They aren’t going to speak up unless they know something for sure, are extraordinarily confident in their ability to deal with being ostracized for speaking out about a suspicion, or have otherwise cut all ties with the community (which from what I have seen seldom happens with kids who grow up here). Every one of them already has some sort of reputation, and a circle of friends, neither of which they are going to jeopardize over a “suspicion.” I’m sure there is plenty of honest “gossip” about who knows what and who believes what really happened but unfortunately most adults, especially those involved in the case, or in law enforcement will never be privvy to those disclosures. Welcome to our little slice of paradise.
I understand what you are saying. Its unfortunate that this social pressure exists and they are of an age where it is magnified for them. But someone knows something here and Morgan died because of it. If nothing ever comes of this case (which I pray is not the case), one day these kids are going to grow up and realise just how horrible their part in keeping secrets was so as not to rock the boat. One day it will sink in that a girl died and they could have provided crucial information to help.
I, live in a slice of paradise myself. However, If something like this had happened to one of my children, I would be looking for justice as WELL!!!
Hi Toni,
It’s Sara again…..I left a message once before—-kind of a “Ballerinas for Morgan!!” message of hope and love. 🙂
I woke up this morning, took my own pup for a long walk and the same thing just kept repeating in my mind: THEY DID EVERYTHING RIGHT!!! “They”–meaning you and her Dad. I know you must often wonder “if only” you tried this or did that etc., etc. but PLEASE know that I get the overwhelming sense that you guys did absolutely the RIGHT things for her and loved her to pieces in the process. I apologize for being clumsy with my words—-but PLEASE always know that you and her Dad were amazing advocates and protectors for darling Morgan. You went above and beyond on behalf of her welfare….you really did! I hope you never second guess yourselves, because you know what they say about hindsight being 20/20. Just the fact you continue to advocate for Morgan and demand answers says it all. Morgan IS blessed to have parents like you two.
Keep strong remember the arts community here holds Morgan up in prayer…..every day. God Bless You!
That was such a sweet thing to say – Steve and I really appreciate it. Love and blessings back to you from us.
Hello Toni, I am writing to ask if one of her friends or acquaintances went to the police, sheriff or CBI with any information don’t you think they would be compelled to reopen her case and investigate this information. I totally understand the small town mentality and how the kids could face retribution,but what your saying is that K or ? and their friends hold that much power in the valley that no one will go against them. I hope that someone would be brave enough to come forward and break that cycle.
Might I say something to her friends and The murderer’s friends? This is not a secret to keep! This is MURDER kids! What makes you think that it won’t happen to you if they think you know to much. Come forward and report it! If Morgan is as sweet and kind as her friends and family say I am sure if your paths have crossed she showed you kindness. Maybe as simple as a smile…You owe this to her. Please!!!
Thanks and sorry Toni, I had to say something. To many times people stay quiet and don’t get involved. To quote “the truth shall set you free”!
Love and Light
Thanks I feel the same way, and I hope they come forward – like I said a few kids that knew Morgan did come forward, but that information is staying with me, and our lawyer until an investigation gets opened, because honestly all the evidence and information the Sheriff’s and Coroner’s office has received up till now never made a difference for them, so why should I take the chance with someones security until I know there is an active investigation?
Gotcha, hopefully the wait won’t be too long now. 🙂
What these mutual friends have to realize is this: “What if it was your sister, mother, or Girlfriend”, wouldn’t you want someone to come forward? One day you will have kids, what if as a parent this happened, wouldn’t you beg for someone to come forward and do the right thing?”
I don’t wish harm on anyone, it was stated just for those that have information to ponder on that!
You are amazing. I’m sending you all my love and prayers.
Thank you so much!
I would like to comment back to Mephisto….mixed feelings on telling Toni how they are slamming her on the death site….mixed feelings that there are other people talking….but at the same time, no need to derail her. Toni you are very smart, and so classy by not looking into the neigh sayers, and responding….if that makes your blog “filtered” so be it…there are many ugly people in the world who only choose to see bad….or can only make choices based upon their own life experiences….which compared to Morgan’s life….they have no clue how great parents can be.. Everything I read on that site, is just ignorance….they did not know her, her life, you, her family….so we just have to shrug them off, and keep focused….what some people do not realise is that we had doubts too….for awhile….we thought, ugh, maybe???? But things never made sense from the get go….and they just kept piling – all up little things didn’t make sense, why Morgan, why always right after she got home or sometime in the middle of the night, how were they coming and going and we weren’t catching them? Sorry to the neigh sayers…..not average family? You bet your — we’re not.
It is not her fault that she was stalked, and that you did everything you could to help….not your fault she died, too bad for the people who didn’t do their jobs….the people who did this….too bad for them that they are in the public eye. You should NOT feel sorry for calling people out, if people get in trouble….it is THEIR FAULT – they BROKE THE LAW…..and your heart isn’t just grieving , it is big enough to say wait….this could happen to someone else….HELP……..The last time I saw Morgan was a few weeks before her death….she was glowing….happy, poised as usual…picking up J for a fun day…everytime I asked her how things were going with this….she just smiled and said, EH…like; puke, it’s dumb…but I’m fine…don’t worry….how are you?!
I think you made an important point- they don’t KNOW Morgan. The people on WS, or deathspace, they are amateur sleuths who want to investigate. They are getting their view of Morgan from one source- her mother, who is admittedly biased. (Not that that is wrong or bad; I’m biased towards my daughter, too :). But people like that tend to want all the facts and every side of the story so that they can come to their own conclusions. They want to hear from the police, the medical examiner, Morgan’s friends, Morgan’s family, and maybe even the suspects, if possible. They want hard facts- police reports, surveillance photos, texts, etc. Toni is only releasing pieces of info at a time. And that is certainly her right, and it is also her right to withhold some information pending further investigation. But you can understand how that might be frustrating to people who want to see the whole picture now.
Also, those who investigate have to be open to ALL possibilities, including suicide, natural causes, and murder. It’s what good investigators do, and it’s what the police should have done as well. People who like to investigate are going to ask those kinds of hard questions. Toni may not be able to look at those possibilities yet, but don’t expect those people not to ask the questions. It doesn’t mean those people are slamming this grieving family- they just want answers, same as we all do.
Hi Toni,
Did you ever think about contacting someone like Lieutenant Joe Kenda who is a retired Detective from the Colorado Springs Police Department? He has a show on Discovery ID and he vowed to find the guilty person of all his homicide cases. I know it’s in a different city in Colorado, but I just wondered if he took on cases like Morgan’s. Also there are people like Paula Zahn and Kelly Ziegler who look into these cases. Their only goal is to get justice for the victims and their families. I just thought that I would mention these people to you. Love and peace and light to you.