Yes you can – It was just the other day I was talking about my ever increasing flow of screen captures (an image of what someone saw on their computer screen, sometimes however far it scrolled is captured too!) and this morning came one about Steve and I. The person writing it used a screen name in place of their real name so that may put their honesty somewhat into question, why purport your honesty under a fake name and all that, but it appeared not to cause anyone to question as this supposition based on a guess and wrapped up in incomplete information was gobbled up as gospel truth as far as I could see.
So just before I give you the simple answer I will remind everyone who reads about Morgan’s Stalking that I answer thousands, and thousands of questions. If you accuse me of a lie, then accuse the victim – my daughter – of a crime, and then demand an answer finishing up with a dare to post your question. Most of you who have tried this tack, mostly in clusters of four questions at a time, you already know the answer to what happens, I delete it. But then all of the calm sensible questions, they get answers.
So when we moved from 62 Corral Drive it was in foreclosure, not our foreclosure, the owners of record’s foreclosure. But then for the simple truth you have to back up a few years. The summer of 2008 the current owners, our landlords were going through a rough time and in danger of losing the house back to the bank. As holders of a lease option to buy at a favorable price, we were very concerned. They assured us that there was no real danger and as soon as we paid the next month they would have it all squared away.
So we paid, and they didn’t square it away, a real bummer for us. We tried to get a hold of the bank directly, numerous ways, and were unsuccessful. It was a bank in Nevada that had gone under, and was swallowed up by another bank, who it turn transferred that asset to a holding division. We were making plans at that time to move as it seemed prudent when out of the blue a man showed up at the door. He had a pile of paper that Steve went over with him and in that pile was a recorded document the owner’s had signed forfeiting the rights to lease payments in the event the house was leased, which in fact it was to us, and had fallen into default, which in fact it had. We by-passed the owners, dealt straight with the bank and just like that problem solved.
The house will remain in foreclosure to protect the banks interest, and as long as we live up to our end, which we in fact did, everyone is happy and we can stay and even negotiate another lease option. We emailed the owners about this document, and funny thing, never heard a peep from them again.
With the economic crash in fall 2008, and in case you have forgotten, the bottom fell out, so to speak. Brokerage houses were closing, banks were going bankrupt, car manufacturers were right behind them, and bailing out became a household term that had nothing to do with a sinking boat. I bring this unpleasant memory up because the value of the house we lived in was plummeting faster that we could renegotiate a “fair” price for the lease option. So as months are ticking by and another house down the street was put up for sale, and we would base our “fair price” on the sale of that house, sounded simple enough. I remember Steve eagerly watching the price of that house plummet, and I kept telling him it will never sell and it did not.
So we abandoned the lease option attempt, and lived there under a simple rental agreement. Another oddity is that suddenly everyone, and I mean everyone wanted to know who the bank was we were dealing with. While we would not have thought that they would have minded, turns out they were adamant that we never disclose that – really never figured that part of it out. But as you know from the blog we started with plans to move in November and then came the horrific tragedy of 12/2/2011 and everything changed for us.
After a week of shock and indecision, I decided I could no longer live in a house in which I would look at the front door, and think that Morgan was going to walk in at any minute. It was for too much to bear for me.
We made concrete plans to move out, notified the bank’s representative that we would like to not remain through our lease and move as soon as we could. They offered a relocation package for our early termination and in actuality we were completely moved before they could complete all of the paperwork on their end.
Steve tells me the recorded lease assignment should be available for a small fee on the Internet for you to really get to the bottom of it, investigators out there also remind me that we would not have, but had we chosen to, we could have invoked the law Obama passed to protect people living in houses that went into foreclosure, a little bit of protection in a crazy time that would have forced the bank to honor a lease that we held for up to a year in the event they ever went through with the foreclosure, and that bit of information should be available on the internet for free.
But we never needed to do that, our exit was discussed and completed on amicable terms, as was our stay there. Now do I get an apology? Probably not – the people that go off on the other Internet sites (with no evidence or reason) just want to be right.
What does all this have to do with Morgan’s Stalking? Nothing. I did this for one reason, and it is not because I feel that I have to explain myself or my actions. I did it because there are those out there who would love nothing more than for me to defend myself with every waking moment. Attack Morgan with every lie that they can muster – it is called… attacking the victim. Who would do this? Perhaps the people who would like to see me talk about anything except the TRUTH about what happened to Morgan. And it seems they will stop at nothing to have that happen.
I just wish one of them would decide to put all this energy into solutions about how to stop stalking. It is a real crime, with real victims, that takes a real toll on countless lives, it is under reported, currently overtaxes law enforcement’s ability to combat it, and must end! The numbers of victims will grow, if the solutions do not will grow. I believe we all must decide where we stand on this issue, because it is not going away, and always remember – one day we were not victims of stalking and the next day – we were. That fast, that complete. Don’t live in fear, rather live empowered.
It figures and I have no idea what website or Blog but I can venture to guess and why I have exited one such website that suppose to be for the victim but for some reason they are tainted and look at you as if you were something you are not.
You are correct they are not only blamming the victim Morgan but you and Steve were and are also a victim. So much for “victim friendly” policy.
I have you to thank Toni, for I was on this one site and being like the hordes of other members. Your blog woke me to the clear agenda some have and I refuse to be a part of that.
God Bless
TG AKA Lera AKA Terry
Thanks so much Terry – I am glad you understand. I could spend all my time trying to answer questions that have nothing to do with Morgan’s stalking and murder or the message that I am trying to get out to help other stalking victims, but any of the time I spend doing that would be time spent away from the real solution, so I have to leave all of them to their silly little delusional ideas that are being fueled not by facts but by the actual criminals family and friends – and if people want to be a part of that drama then it’s their decision and in the end when the truth is revealed I’d like to see how many of those people stand up and do a complete 180 and say I knew it. 🙂
Totally upsetting that some are digging into your personal business. None of our business, you must be getting to close to the truth for some people.
To those people with a guilty conscience who are reading the blog I would say, good luck with your guilt. It will eat you alive. It will affect you mentally, physically and emotionally. It’s already happening. You can feel it. You may think you can control it or shut it down but eventually ( days, weeks, years) it will take over. It will make you sick. Whether you have a tip that could help solve this or YOU are the one (or ones) that caused this, it will MOST definitely affect you your whole life. The truth can set you free and the truth will come out at some point. Why not now? Stop blaming the victims, they have been through enough!
Praying for a solution soon Toni and Steve. Praying for God’s strength, love and comfort through all this. God bless you both on this painful journey.
I agree 100%. Living with a guilty mind will kill you!!! I don’t know how they could live with their pathetic lies…
Well said:) I wish you and the best!
Dear Ingram family, don’t even reply to these people, (whoever they are, and you probably have a fair idea). They are not worthy of your thoughts. They will be judged all by themselves one day. Keep moving forward
Agree!!!
Tony and Steve,
I hope you are find some peace with all of this soon. I sent you a comment on Thanksgiving soon after you posted on your blog which you did not publish and that is fine, although I hope you got it and don’t understand why you wouldn’t publish it. Anyway after reading this post today I feel that many of the readers ask questions out of good nature and just in an attempt to help find an answer. I know I for one often lie awake thinking of ideas or possible situations, I wondered if it had ever been considered if the stalker was going to come after you and Steve as well until he was alarmed or scared that night. I hate to bring this up and in no way am I trying to get under your skin. This is just one example of things I think of late at night amd Im only wanting to help. I do realize there are some people out there who are attacking, assuming and accusing. I don’t know how you do all you do with working, responses and just day to day living but you do. And you do it all so well. Let the assumers make an as(s) of themselves. The time will come until then I hope for peace to consume you for even a few minutes, loving embraces from an angel.
These people are so petty and ignorant,not worth dealing with
Dear Ingram Family, I have never gone through what you have. Regarding the devious,negative people in the world,I know they are there. I have lived through tragedies,and learned from them. An outsider may think I am naive,and not a realist,but we know our selves. With happy and tragic occurences, I try to not waste mental and emotional energy on people who are not truthful, kind,or are living their lives with selfish “agendas”. To do so festers the soul. You and Steve have helped so many people by raising awareness on stalking,and we thank you. I wish you the best, and I do believe Morgan had a wonderful life with you two as parents, and is now again in a happy place and wishing you love and happiness. She shines on.
I began following news stories closely in ’09 while in the hospital fighting leukemia. During the next couple of years, there was the “Baby Lisa” case, Kyron Horman, and Ayla Reynolds. It seems with all of these cases, and now, Morgans, there seems to be a group of people who life’s work is to dig, dig, dig, and pick pick pick at everything about these cases just to hurt and dispel hope. Evil people. A lot don’t know anyone really associated with anyone in the cases. Maybe a long lost aunt Selena here and there, but that’s it. But, boy, i tell you, they get as far into these cases as they can and not in a nice way. Watch out for them, Toni. God Bless you and Steve.
I hate that you had to share something that was private and no one’s business, except your own. I appreciate you for sharing this tragedy with us, and allowing POSITIVE people to lend you support. This blog IN NO WAY makes you a public figure answerable to public opinion. You do this as a mother seeking justice, and eventually peace. That is normal and acceptable. Everything else is private and the sick voyeurs who continue to rummage through your lives do NOT deserve explanations.