In the early afternoon I leave a message for Detective Glassmire that I would like him to see the videos. Morgan is so very upset. It’s worse now because she had just enough time to feel like her life was going back to “normal” and just as soon as she was feeling pretty good about it the stalker managed to rip it out from under her. She is more shaken up today then she was last night.
I am confident she will recover, that she was just caught off guard last night, and now will not make that mistake again.
Elliott calls to see what has happened about the car, and who the detectives think it could be. I tell him instead of waiting for the detective I have called every possible delivery place and none of them had a delivery anywhere in the neighborhood last night. I tell him I am going to ask the detective to canvass the street, because that should really be his job. It’s just not the same if I do it. Elliott tells me not to worry, there are only seven people on the street and he has already asked them all. Not only no deliveries, no one was even expecting someone for anything last night. I tell Elliott we should have waited for the detective, he might have wanted to ask something else, even though I am happy that he has done this. Steve would have probably done it when he got home anyway.
Detective Glassmire calls back and tells me he won’t have time to follow up on the car in the driveway until one of his shifts next week. I am upset, and remind him it was not just a car, which was in the driveway twice, up and down the street, and in our neighbor’s driveway at least once. It was really the person that I wanted him to follow up on right away.
Detective Glassmire explains that there isn’t much he can do right away, and as long as we have it all on video we should not worry. Then I told him that Elliott had asked every person on the street about a delivery person, and there was none, and I have called every delivery place myself, and there were none last night. Detective Glassmire is happy we have followed up on everything for him. I ask him if I should email him the information, and he says no that he will just pick it up from me next time he is down.
At 6:34 pm I forwarded a text to Morgan that I just received from Leesa of Odin eating a chocolate pretzel, “Odin likes chocolate,” I tell her.
Morgan’s little nephew eating chocolate
Morgan answers, “I just screeched like a small child!!” So Cute”. She answers. “That’s what I thought.” I tell her. Morgan wants me to get out the guest bedding for her, which means she thinks Wylah may have had a little accident on her blanket. I already smelled it and washed everything. I tell her that, and that I will get out some guest bedding for her anyway. “You Rock.” Morgan tells me.
She comes home at around 9:30 pm and we all go to sleep early. Last night Steve and I were up very late going over the video, and I’m sure Morgan did not sleep too well either. At least I don’t see how she could have.
During the night Steve work up, and could not go back to sleep, so he reviewed video and now saw this person at 11:19 pm out in the street. This is the camera that catches Morgan’s bathroom windows on down to the corner of the house. This male walks by our house and then can be seen running back by a few minutes later. He could easily be the stalker. Steve goes out and walks the neighborhood after seeing this to check about a half hour after it happened, and reports that the front window light in Brooke’s dad’s house is on. He is pretty certain that is Brooke’s bedroom because he has been in a similar house in the neighborhood.
Here is the person – tell us what you think…https://vimeo.com/51308867
Male walking by house then running back at 11:30 pm from Morgan’s Stalking on Vimeo.
Click here to read about the 80th – the 84th days of Morgan’s stalking https://morgansstalking.com/?p=1743
I’m just so sorry that this happened to you. What a creeper he is.
Thanks and you’re right
So creepy……….
Not sure if i can see it clearly but when this person is walking past do they have a backpack on their back?
Bluebird – Steve and I just ran this on the big screen and you are absolutely correct – he is wearing a BACKPACK! I can’t believe that we never saw that before. Your eyes are much better than ours.
It doesn’t look like he has a backpack on when he’s running back, just when he’s walking by
Right I only saw the backpack when he was walking not when he was running.
Exactly, i only saw it when he walked past.
Did he drop off the backpack with something in in at ?’s house maybe? I don’t know.
I find it interesting that this figure is wearing a white shirt. It would be easy to put on a black shirt so the cameras, you guys and the neighbors would be less likely to see him. Considering he’s appeared repeatedly wearing a white long-sleeved shirt I think it’s just another way for him to taunt you… catch me if you can type thing.
My guess would be he ran the second time because he was facing the camera more and there’s less of a chance of making out his face.
Or he ran because he had just done something and wanted to et away. I would be furious if I were you, having lost Morgan, finding this footage and still having no ID or charges.
I’m so sorry you’ve been through and are still going through all of this.
If these are night vision cameras then black would appear as white.
I don’t know what to say except that we watched on the cameras with dark and light clothing that we knew of and it didn’t make black appear as white – I thought it would too – I know it happens with some but it didn’t with ours.
I saw your (many) responses about this after I posted. Sorry! I thought it was weird they would wear white until I read your response about the white substance from the roof. Now it’s devious, cunning, and scary. They were so well planned and knew exactly what they were doing. It becomes more and more apparent that this was not the first time someone was stalked. I am curious; do you think it was a gang stalking (all willing participants) or that the stalker manipulated friends/family into “helping”? Do you think the stalker’s friends/family knew/know the extent of the behavior? Many of the actions of the stalker fit with psychopathic tendencies (see Hare’s Psychopath Checklist) and psychopath’s are known for their ability to manipulate. Keep fighting, you have so many people behind you and supporting you.
Wow – good point. The white shirt was a clue that always drove me crazy…didn’t make any sense to me.
Where exactly is this camera facing?
Morgan’s side of the house facing the street
This statement right here makes me so mad! “Detective Rob explains that there isn’t much he can do right away, and as long as we have it all on video we should not worry.” REALLY? How could he have said you shouldn’t worry? Your daughter has a stalker, and Det. Rob gives you a response like this? Just unacceptable. As for the video, I wonder if he ran by the second time because he had approached your house and attempted to look in, throw something at a window, etc., and got spooked or for some other reason decided he needed to make a hasty retreat. My heart goes out to all of you, and I hope you get the answers you deserve. I’m so sorry Morgan, you, and your husband endured this, and I’m sorry you lost your precious daughter.
It makes me furious, especially at myself, because I tried every day to keep the Detective up on everything, but it was like I was just getting lip service, but I continued to believe, and trust that they knew what they were doing…this was a deadly mistake. Now looking back on this I wonder if someone higher up was keeping the Detective from catching the stalker(s) on purpose – was the main suspect a police informant or something?
Did my daughter have to die because a criminal was being protected? I would never have thought that before, but if you even knew the half of what Steve and I have been doing to try to get an investigation open, and the things we have been told as to why they will not open an investigation – well let’s just say it doesn’t pass the laugh test…only we are not laughing.
I can just imagine how infuriating and frustrating this all is. I agree, you do have to wonder why the police didn’t do more. That whole response about how if you have it on video you should not worry just comes off as flippant. It is lip service, as if they didn’t take any of this seriously, and look where it all led. So senseless. And you know what? IF the stalker was a police informant, how pathetic that they would turn a blind eye to his crimes, as if his information were more valuable that your daughter’s quality of life and life. I am just shaking my head. I will be praying for you to get the justice and answers you deserve.
Thanks Tammy – it would be beyond pathetic I agree!
Are you keeping records of who is telling you what on why there is not or can not be an investigation? Seems like when you are able to light a fire under their back side the ones keeping it from happening should have to answer for their lack of public protection.
Is he walking toward ?’s house or is he running toward ?’s house. Seems to me there is no way ?’s dad is ignorant of what is going on, I hope they treat him as an accomplice when this is said and done.
I keep excellent notes – thanks, maybe someday they will be of interest to law enforcement.
Walking to ?’s house & running from it.
I wonder if he walked by and then hid to make sure that you or Steve didn’t spot him…he may have been “testing” the cameras and you to see if you were up watching them. Then he ran back knowing that nobody came out & went who knows where?
Could be – others have suggested that. I know when he popped up on our front door step at 4:30 am one morning, I was just as shocked to see him as he was to see me, so I guess he misjudged a few times.
I wonder if Keenan’s work attire inclued a long sleeve light shirt.
Don’t know to be honest. It always worried me back then that E had that same shirt in white that he had actually shown me. But the person walking and running in this video, as well as other pictures we have looked too young and too slim.
If he worked at city market he would wear a white shirt. As far as I remember all staff there does. And it would make since if you looked at it that way.
If that is true about the white shirt it would make sense I just don’t know if there is a suggested clothing requirement – but you know what’s really creepy it was that same white shirt in many different videos – even once in an ice storm raining down icy rain and he showed up with no coat in the same white shirt popping up from a crouched position and running across our driveway to behind the bushes in front of our garage…that I couldn’t understand – no coat???
I know that the City Market in Rifle had long sleeve white button ups as a uniform
I have security cameras, and for some reason with the night vision, dark clothing looks light. I too wondered why the guy breaking into my car was wearing all white, until I saw myself on the video with a dark jacket on – it looked white/light.
Maybe they are different than our cameras – don’t really know why.
Our video baby monitor has an infra red feature that makes the baby’s black blanket look white in the dark.
Creepy. So, I guess whatever it is this person was running from was across the street from your house? Whose car is that parked in the street?
I don’t know I will have to look again…sorry.
I feel like this guy and the guy from the previous video look the same. Is he running towards your house in this video? Did the lights in the back go on after this. He is so creepy. I can’t believe the police were so slack in county.
It seems to me in the video that the lights on the right got brighter after he passed our neighbors house but I am not positive – these videos are being inspected so maybe we will know soon.
I noticed that too Toni…. At first I thought it was my eyes playing a trick on me but no they definately got brighter on the right hand side of the video
Which direction is he coming from, and which direction does he run towards? Anyone’s house in particular?
He comes from the left past the front of our house in the video – passes by the side where Morgan’s room is headed towards ?’s dad house where ? lives (they were the third house past us on the right) then runs back past our house heading out of the cul-de-sac.
I would like to respond to the white shirt comment with my very unofficial opinioin. Are any of these camera’s using night vision? I don’t know with 100% certainty but night vision videos that I have seen always turn the clothing white and the hair lightens also. It could be possible that this guy isn’t wearing white but brown or something similar. And I don’t see a backpack – just a shadow on his back at one point.
Also – he walks casually from the left to the right (approaching the house and Morgans window?), then he runs from right to left (back to the street?) Sorry I am trying to get my bearings and what exactly I’m looking at. Is the house bordering the left side of the screen or are there trees there?
No absolutely not – Steve even went out in a dark shirt under the cameras and it appeared dark, then he wore a light shirt and it appeared light, and then Steve did another test that has never been shared before on this site, and that is if you lie down on the roof and slide, as if you were going to peer over the roof to look in a window then a white chalky residue from the shingles on the roof of the house would turn your clothes white, so unless you were wearing a white shirt it would be obvious that you were recently lying or sliding along on the roof – but then again someone would only notice if they saw you I guess.
It doesn’t look like a backpack to me, it just looks like a shadow.
When Steve did that test, were you thinking about the roof? I might have missed something timeline-wise, but I thought you guys weren’t thinking about the roof until after the murder? Did he ever glance on the roof when he was chasing after the lights when on? Did he ever notice anything out of the ordinary when he did the stake outs? Sorry for all the questions.
We did just look at the video on the big screen for the first time and there was a backpack when he walked by. We never thought about the roof, or knew about the roof until after Morgan died so when Steve did the test with the tree it was much later. He never looked up at the roof when the lights went on that’s why now it’s so upsetting to just think if we had just looked up. No he never saw anything but if this person was using night vision like some of the Patrol Officers thought then he knew Steve was there so he wouldn’t come walking or running over I’m pretty sure. No problem with the questions they do help.
Toni, this may sound stupid, I know E is looking a little suspect but I have gone through it again and again with where you are so far in your posts, however I think with his questions for you through out the investigation and running around before an investigator can do his job and blabbing, and always curious I am thinking the opposite of general opinion that he may be involved I think he basically burnt the candle at both ends so to speak, and basically maybe unknowingly gave away all your secrets, cameras etc., to those who were guilty. He kinda seems like a busy body more than anything. But after Morgan passed away, maybe he figured he or his children may be in danger because he knew to much, hence no forwarding information. Just a thought.
What you just said about E is the exact same thing as I believe, not everyone believes that but I do.
What are your thoughts on Jessica Ridgeway? I live in Denver. It is so horrible
It is so horrific – I just can’t stand it. I have a feeling Dr. Dobersen, that has given us our 2nd opinion (on this blog on September 10th) on Morgan, is probably doing that autopsy, so at least they can count on the highest possible professionalism in that case, unlike Morgan’s autopsy, which we are sickened that Dr. Kurtzman touched our daughter’s body after she was dead – in my opinion Dr. Kurtzman has done nothing but prove his total incompetence!
I just noticed this evening after taking a glance at Keenan’s FB that he has “liked” two Jessica Ridgeway pages. That creeps me out.
I can’t even think of how someone could do that – I am horrified by what happened to that little girl.
I pray that predator is caught immediately!
One of the signs LE looks for in a suspect is if they seem too eager to help, and try to insert themselves into an investigation. I’m not sure what I think of E either, but it’s something to think about.
I agree with you I said that to Steve back when this was happening, but then you start to question yourself…that’s why I now tell everyone to remember to trust your intuition not your mind.
Toni am i the only one who feels that the coroner and Dr deliberately sabotaged this case? Even the most incompetent Dr could have performed this very basic autopsy. The fact that u were guiding them and insisting things only leads me to believe that there is more to this than you think. I feel they are a part of this cover up.
This is what I believe as well – I didn’t in the beginning, but now after everything we have been through, and looking back on all my notes, and doing everything we have been doing to get this investigation open, and the complete runaround and at every turn I now believe this is a coverup too.
Hi Toni, Love and light to you. Just wondering WHY a coverup. I agree that it seems crazy at how much the ball has been dropped but do you have any clue why people are covering all of this up?
At this point and time I have no clue why – at first I just thought they were covering up for their incompetence, but now I think it may go deeper.
I cannot imagine what you have been through. I have a 20 year old daughter and I don’t think I could be as strong as you seem to be through this all. I find it deeply disturbing that LE did not follow up on the stalking. With evidence like this, it is apparent that something was going on. I live almost at the end of a cul-de-sac and every house is occupied and there is no way we have anywhere near this type of late-night foot traffic like you did. And there were only 7 houses actually occupied at this time? No way are these all innocent people walking your property late at night. My prayers are with you that you find the answers you need and that people are held accountable!
Trust me they knew something was going on. When we had a few days of quiet I said to the Detective, “maybe it’s over and we are all still too jumpy and overreacting” and he picked up a clod of frozen dirt and threw it at the house with a loud bang and said, “I don’t think you are overreacting – it is still really happening.” And on the night Morgan died the cameras show the Patrol Officers coming by multiple times and shining their light towards her room – like they were worried that one particular night that something was up. I think I know why they were worried, and you know what they should have let us in on what they knew instead of hiding it after Morgan was found dead the next morning!
Sorry to go on a rant like that – I am just so upset tonight. Thank you for your prayers.
How long after this boy is seen walking/running across the camera does Morgan run out of the house? Would you put the video showing Morgan up?
I’ll ask Steve if he can do that, but she leaves on the video from last night when the guy comes up the driveway not tonight’s video when he walks and then runs by – tonight’s video she doesn’t leave, she didn’t even know he was caught on camera that night.
It was horrible, and still is horrible – there are days like today that I don’t know whether we can hold on long enough to do this…it hurts so bad and it seems like no one wants to step up to the plate and help, but I know we have to keep going for Morgan – and that is the only reason we keep enduring this pain on a daily basis.
This neighborhood never had someone in the middle of the night running around – there was only one teenager that I knew of back then in the neighborhood and that was ?. This was a quiet neighborhood for 6 years until Morgan’s stalking started.
my heart it so hurt for you. i cant even fathom what you all are going through!!! i have young children and whenever I look at them i think in the last weeks of learning of all of this I keep of your amazing, beautiful young girl who was stolen from you. I pray for all of you and hope national media picks up your story for Morgan.
Teresa
Thanks so much Teresa – I guess it’s time for that.
Your grandson is adorable with all that chocolate on his face! I know this must be such a hard time for you both but remembering the good things that you have in your life at the same time will give you the strength to keep on fighting. May God bless your family
Thanks – there were so many good times and so much love, and it’s really hard thinking Morgan will no longer be here with us in body, even though I know her spirit is still with us, and boy does our little granddaughter miss her, but our little grandson was too young I think to remember her.
To me, it almost feels like the person (this night & previous video) is “casing” the house. Because previous to this everything was done from a distance, so the cameras did not get the stalker on camera. I feel like he knew the cameras were up and that maybe it was becoming frustrating to not be sure of how close he could get. So he makes some bold appearances…yet doesn’t make the appearances seem threatening (he could explain them away should the need arise. But because there’s no reason for him to be there – they feel sinister – like there’s another agenda. I think he was hoping his appearances would cause investigators to come around and question, so that he would know how far and how clearly (and perhaps also if the cams are even being monitored or if their just “props”) the cameras reach is…..that’s my opinion.
Heather you could be right but I just don’t know – I just know he is really sick and will do it again if not stopped.
I looked at Randy’s Facebook tonight and there is a lot of interesting information on it. Something is weighing on his mind these past few days.
I haven’t been on it myself – I wonder what he is thinking. If he came forward with information then I don’t think he would be implicated, and the interesting thing is I think he was set up on purpose to be the fall guy.
Do you think that the stalking is the work of more than one person?
Last time I was at City market, nobody was wearing the long sleeve shirts. They have changes their uniform a couple times before K started working there. But I honestly did not put that together myself. Good work!
I know interesting huh?
I live a neighborhood that if this type of ‘stuff’ happened repeatedly, someone would have eventually been shot. This is not a mere case of someone casing or trying to ‘feel’ out things, this was a case of out and out harassment in the least.
Seriously! Knock on my windows, repeatedly try to open my front “keypad” door. Repeatedly make my dogs feel aggressive, when they have NEVER been that way before these ‘incidents’.
Set off not only motion sensors but motion detectors and lights over such an extended period of time. Something was very wrong in the Ingram household. Someone!!!!! or Some people made an exacerbated attempt to make Morgan and her family feel unsafe in their OWN HOME!
There is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE, for the harassment they has to endure.
We may not know what caused this, but the end result was a young girl that either could not, or was force not to deal with this type of harassment anymore.
IMO. Morgan DID NOT kill herself. Her death was either accidental or homicide. I don’t have the credentials to decide between the two, just a heartfelt belief that without this harassment, her death would have never come about.
Roxye, I think you may have misunderstood the place that I was coming from? I was trying to minimize the acts of the stalker at all. What I WAS saying is that since the cameras had gone up, there were several instances where rocks or tapping or (like occurrences) had continued. But (per this blog) the occurances had not been caught on camera. My thought process (which admittedly could be way off) was that if the stalker lived in the neighborhood (and obviously the evidence points to the fact that he does) that he knew cameras had gone up…but what he would not know is if they were just diversionary tactic or real live running cams. He also would not know what the view point is. From what the cams show…on the two nights he did not do anything that would warrant anyone shooting him. By saying this, i am not saying that this person is innocent…I am merely sayin that you cannot go around shooting people for walking or running…unless they’re posing an in eminent danger to you.
Again, my observation is that he is up to no good an likely in cahoots with the stalker or is the stalker…but he actions (on camera) appear passive/aggressive. Again, as if he is casing the home and cameras or perhaps testing his audacity. I don’t actual know. I wasn’t thee and did not live through the horror this family lived through. I merely threw a thought out to see if it made sense or if it inspired any further thoughts/ideas.
I don’t know how or why my comment was so misconstrued? But felt it needed to be clarifies after that comment.
Correction…was NOT trying to minimize!!!
Heather I was in NO WAY referring to you!
My only thought was in my tight knit.community, this type of thing would not have happened easily. It could have still happened, but it would have been harder for the harassers.
Gotcha! You are so lucky Roxye!! In my neighborhood everyone is very “keep to yourself” – I doubt anyone would even know or care if something happened.
I do miss the close knit neighborhoods!!! They’re a blessing!
I want to add something that you just reminded me of Heather – I had a couple of neighbors say that if it was them they would walk outside and shoot him – well number one every time we ran outside we didn’t see him so what would we have shot at (although I am a really good shot if I do say so myself), and if we did see him running away and God forbid we shot and missed him what if a bullet had gone into someone else’s home? Then I was also told I should put out bear traps – can you imagine if one of my neighbors little dogs got caught in the trap – it would have killed it and I couldn’t do that and neither could Morgan. We did come up with other ideas and I won’t go in to details now but none of them worked with this kind of stalking – the thing I honestly feel would have worked was number one really interrogate, watch over where ever you believe the suspect is, as well as pressure everyone connected to get information, and number two when there is an incident come in quietly from 4 different directions quickly and surround the area so as there is no way to escape – they actually did this once before it became a felony stalking case and I truly believe that time was the only time they came really close to catching him.
Wow Toni!!! Those are powerful reminders!!! It’s easy to say “I’d do this…” Or “I’d do that…” But when you are living the moment and weighing the possibilities…a lot of times you find there is NO simple answer or sure proof plan. This sociopath had Morgan and you & Steve at his mercy. It’s absolutely terrifying!!! When you are a sane and rational person…it’s almost beyond comprehension the crazy things a sick mind will concoct, attempt, change up…..I mean, geez, who the heck knows!!! And you wouldn’t! You would absolutely not know the extremes that a sick person will go to. This is why I feel that the “may-sayers” are so wrong. They cannot believe in the facts, because the facts don’t jive with their rational mind…but what they’re missing is that a rational person DID NOT do this! A crazy person did….and it’s scary…and it’s easier to not see, to look away…than it is to believe in the facts.
“and number two when there is an incident come in quietly from 4 different directions quickly and surround the area so as there is no way to escape – they actually did this once before it became a felony stalking case and I truly believe that time was the only time they came really close to catching him.”
Toni, have you talked about this incident in a previous blog post?
Yes, 1st was the time that Steve almost pepper sprayed a deputy and then they went to ?’s dad’s house to question K, but he was sleeping and could not be woken up. I’ll see if I can find it for you, here it was this one – Saturday, September 3, 2011 – A Sheriff’s Department.
I get what you’re saying. He’s testing his boundaries, seeing if the cameras are for real and how much more he can get away with. How close he can get. Being able to walk right up the driveway probably emboldened him even more.
Roxye – I do believe If not for Morgan’s stalker Morgan would be alive right now, and for the life of me I can’t understand why LE did not do an investigation into her death.
Morgan did not commit suicide, I do know that for a fact, but do you realize that in the State of Colorado if the Coroner’s office believes it was suicide that they have to find intent by doing an investigation – they didn’t do one for that either, so what does that say?
What about the camera that was mounted on the house that had the view of the driveway. Wouldn’t it be a better view of this individual? It would show a closer/clearer shot of this boy as he went through the yard?
I think they are pushing boundaries, like small children, trying to see what they can get away with, what will get them caught, what won’t, and what the consequences were. As they push further , the boundary gets moved further and further out and the more they get away with.
With the videos las night and tonight, they suddenly become amatuers and look ridiculous. What a false flag – so unlike everything that’s come before and a little too obvious. This kid that helped the ring leader must be dealing with a lot of guilt over his involvement now.
The truth is, everyone involved is going to have it eat away at them in the years to come and eventually crack. The leader? I don’t think he will crack in the same way, because he’s incapable of love, feeling, and will just never “get” it. Which also means he will eventually lose it all anyway, because he will never, ever find satisfaction or purpose or ever really matter or be loved. And taking away from another will never give him what they’ve got.
In Morgans short life, she loved and was loved. She really, truly lived.
Keep on keeping on, Ingrams, and fight the good fight. Time is on your side now and the sun will rise on this darkness. Morgan will have justice and you will find peace.
That was really beautiful what you said…thank you.
@WatchingInCarbondale – I agree with your theory. That is the sense I got as well.
I have to look to see if that view caught anything – I’m sure we looked and it is possible it didn’t show anything if he came from across the street onto our front lawn because the camera couldn’t see that direction, but we will look again.
Toni,
You need to stay strong and keep your thoughts focused on a positive outcome. I know this must be very painful to keep re-living this on a daily basis, but you are doing the right thing. I am sure Morgan would be very proud that her parents are fighting so hard to bring not only what happened to her, but the issue of stalking to the public. I have been to Morgan’s blog and several other sites. She was a truly unique individual.
Janine thanks for your kind words. On Morgan’s computer I found a file of things she was going to put on her own blog with more ideas for homemade natural things, maybe someday I can post them for her when i have the time. It just hurts to view all the sweet and kind things she was working on and then have to deal with her being taken away in such a horrible way, to never be able to complete all the things she was doing. And then there are people that don’t realize how they would act if they were Morgan under this kind of fear for 4 months – I’m sure they wouldn’t have been able to do all the good things she was still doing – that’s why I always say how strong she was, not because it never wore her down, but because it took that long, and that much to wear her down.
Toni I feel that the person that stalked and killed her didnt mean for her to die..He probably was in love with her and asked her out before, made passes and she turned him away and that might have started all of this. He knew he didnt stand a chance. Because he felt he couldn’t get close to her and had to do it from far away. Do you ever think he might have even spent the night on your roof sometimes? Just to be close to her? May you find peace and find what you are looking for. Im addicted to this blog and spend alot of time on it, commenting and reading all of the comments. I cant wait for the day that you blog that the murderer has been caught! I will continue praying for your well being and justice for precious Morgan.
Luc I think in a way maybe you are right about that, but I think it is a mental problem like with sexual predators (I believe he was) and they sometimes believe they are in love and do all these strange things like stalk and then end up killing the child or woman that they desired…in this case it could have even been that he employed his “helpers” like ?, and she mixed up the date rape cocktail and he thought they were going to knock her out, dress her in street clothes and take her out of the house, but ? was jealous and wanted her dead so she made sure what she mixed was a lot stronger then what she said. And then Morgan died before they could get her out of the house and the Sheriff’s Patrol Officers kept coming by so they could have gotten spooked. And H H could have been their lookout person.
But then again it could be because he knew the Sheriff Detective was scheduled to pick up his hours on that upcoming Tuesday – 5 days later and he needed Morgan to be dead and look like a suicide or that she just took off and disappeared like so many other girls around here, so they were distracted with that and gave up on the stalking case. I just don’t know and Steve and I are not investigators so I just pray the FBI takes this case.
Toni, I was finally able to watch the video’s! I tried using another browser, to no avail, then realized they have an app, tada! It was eatting me up not being able to see these, beyond scary! Is the “person” walking towards or away from ?’s dad? Or maybe a less confusing way to ask is, from the angle of this camera is ?’s dad’s house to the right or left? If its left I have another question but Ill hold off. About E, my mother and I have always had a gut feeling about him, too “helpfull.”
Wait I meant if its to the right, excuse me.
He is walking toward ?’s dad’s house, already past our house. Running back he is coming from ?’s dad’s house continues toward the street in front of our house.
Walking to the right towards ?’s dad’s house and I know what you mean about E and the feeling in your gut but even though I think he knew who was involved and didn’t help us and don’t think he was involved.
Do you think that backpack, could have been his stalking kit, like he walked past that side of the house, went around by the tree and put it up on the house or in tree, but that tiny noise is what woke Steve up?? Then realizing he made too much noise, ran away from the house? This would maked more sense if he walked from ?’s dad, and ran back towards ?’s dad, but actually makes more sense now that Im thinking about it, because if he realized that he might have alerted someone he might have been running to hide. I just dont see how LE didnt question EVERYONE in your neighborhood, to get down to the bottom of this!!! I mean in my tiny town they canvas houses over a stolen tv, stolen cars, graffiti, but not in a stalking investigation??
And with TG bellow me, maybe he threw the pack up in the house next door? I just have this feeling, that Steve doesn’t know what woke him up, but he did wake up within 11 minutes of this guy being there, which tells me, either his intuition woke him up, or a sound that he may or may not have recognized at the time awoke him. Hope this all makes sense.
This view on the camera could he have gone on the other side of neighbor’s house and got up on their roof instead of yours. I think this is what he did so he could check out where you put the cameras. He was doing a recon mission.
Oh my G. I never thought of that – I don’t think my neighbor was even in town that night and if he went on the other side of her house then he would have been between her house and an empty house so no problem with secrecy.
I was thinking the same thing! Just didn’t have time to write a response at the time.
Wow – why had we not thought of that?
When I first watched I also saw the backpack & was happy to see that others had already commented on it being there. Although, I did watch the clip a couple more times & as he walking up & to the right of the shot it appears that he is not wearing one. So there may be a shadow making the backpack appear for most of his appearance or a shadow making it disappear for those few small seconds. Either way I do agree that there is nothing there as he makes his running retreat.
When we watched on the large screen we could definitely see the backpack while walking towards ?’s house and not on him when he ran out of the cul-de-sac.
Am I the only one thinking E is the stalker?
I think E is a spy, who is telling ?’s mom eveything! I think he is scary, but I do trust Toni’s intuition…
2 girls and that isn’t why I think what I think, because of course there are people in this world that have been serial killers that had a family with kids and all neighbors, church members, etc. would never have guessed but I do really think he was just the go between and I don’t think he wanted Morgan to get hurt, honestly.
It looks to me like someone running from a car or a person. It almost looks like he jumps down or dives into bushes at the end of that vid. Is that possible?
I agree on the first point~ he seems to look behind him twice, left and right, during the first moments when he is seen running.
As for the bush, I think it’s just really tall & he ran behind it.
IMO, he is wearing a backpack the first time & not the second.
It does look like that – watch what happens tomorrow night on the video on the blog coming up
Toni, what makes you think something was going on that night to make the deputies keep checking? And I get a feeling that you know way more but can not say, maybe for fear of getting someone in trouble?
And did you know there is a fb group started morgans stalking the other side? I see some of the last names that you have mentioned here as part of the group!
Months after Morgan died and we finally got the DVR back from the Sheriff’s and we were finally able to spend some time going through the night Morgan died on the different cameras we realized that the Patrol Vehicles came by much more that night then any other night so it got us wondering if they had a tip that something might happen that night and if they did have a tip they were obviously trying to protect her, but we were never told and when she ended up dead the next morning – well I guess at that point they wouldn’t ever tell.
No I did not know about a FB group being started by his family but it doesn’t surprise me and I am not worried at all – anyone can do that if they like.
I can’t see the names of who’s part of that group – I guess it’s private? Keenan’s FB is private too, but you can see his “likes”, which is how I saw that he “liked” 2 Jessica Ridgeway groups. <:/
So far as I can see the new FB links to a blog that just links to the official reports. I don't understand what the point of starting whole new pages/groups/blogs for that is??? Unless there is private stuff being posted that only certain people can see.
I have been told his mother is doing that, but honestly I can’t be bothered to go on all the sites, and start looking, I don’t have the time + I really don’t think it would be helpful since I have to stay on course and honestly do the right thing for Morgan and other stalking victims, and not be sucked in to some kind of drama from the “other side”.
Well put Toni! There are MANY things that I’ve come to admire about you and your family, but one of the main things I find admirous is that you stay “on course”, keep your dignity, dont bat-an-eye at those that are just mean as cuss, and remain a classy woman with a big heart!! It is this character that made Morgan so remarkable as well, I’m sure. The “other side” is classless and hateful…a friend of mine showed me a post by K’s mother (J) that said we we’re “pity party” supporters. I just thought to myself…first, that she has to be a couple sandwiches short of a picnic! And second, that regardless of what side you are on, a beautiful, precious young lady has been murdered….and grieving is what is happening here…grieving and the pursuit of JUSTICE. Stay strong and ignore the hateful. Always remember: “Greater is He that is in me, than those that are in the world.” Whether you’re religious or spiritual or none of the above, the message is powerful! You have it within yourself to do what is right, no matter the obstacles that are placed in your path.
“The “other side” is classless and hateful…a friend of mine showed me a post by K’s mother (J) that said we we’re “pity party” supporters.”
That’s just… I can’t even think of another appropriate adjective outside of “classless and hateful”.
I would think that if any of these people were on the up-and-up (in other words, not involved in Morgan’s stalking and/or death), that they would have come forward to the Ingram family and attempted to set things right, gotten on board with keeping a watch on the neighborhood, etc. Instead they’ve been nothing but nasty, shady, circumspect, etc. They’ve done everything they can make themselves seem ever *more* suspicious instead of less, as they repeatedly claim.
Hi Toni, Let me first say how terribly sorry I am for your loss of Morgan. I have just started reading your blog and have spent the last 2 days “catching up”. I want you to know you have made me very aware of a situation in our little town. We have a known registered sex offender that was just arrested for stalking. My husband is a Pastor of a locak church and he (the sex offender/stalker) some times stops by our home for help from my husband and the church. Because of readying your blogs I will never again open my door to him! Thank you for sharing your pain and making us more aware of just how dangerous people can be!
Sherril I have always been a really trusting person and I guess all I can say is I am definitely not as trusting as I used to be.
At this point Toni, I think it very wise that you trust nobody but Steve. Your story has gripped me like no other in the past. You have shared so much with us readers that many of us feel we are family yet we are not. I really do care and pray that Justice comes for Morgan soon.
TG thank you – that is so sweet.
It looks like the person is wearing the same thing as the person in the photos after the 3 deputies left. He kind of walks like the guy in the other video as well..
I think he is wearing the same thing as in the first wildlife camera photo and he is the same height and build but I think the last video of the guy coming up the driveway is not him – it’s his friend.
Hi Toni,
Have you considered filing a lawsuit against the LE and all others connected to the investigation for shoddy police work and for violating Morgan’s civil rights by not investigating her death properly? I don’t know if it would be possible but that t might force them to re-open her case. Sending good thoughts to you.
Toni, this story is really heartbreaking and I so deeply am sorry for what happened. I hope you find every answer and more. No one deserves to go through anything like this.
But i do have a theory, this is something i do think you may have already thought about but if not, its another look. What if E was threatened? I think that K was extremely dangerous and may have threatened him to be a lookout for K. And once Morgan passed, he was scared and left so unexpectedly for the safety of his family. But at the same time the creepiness of his comments make me feel as though that might not be true. But it is something you may never know until an investigation is launched. Which i hope is soon.
Me too – I hope it is soon!
Toni, please take a minute and Google Pheobe Prince suicide, not because of the fact she did take her own life, but that the teens involved with bullying, stalking and a bunch of other charges are going to be held accountable for this young ladies death. I am wondering if you were to approach this from a different angle with a higher authority (FBI) that they would actually look for the truth unlike local LE, and those responsible would be caught.
Forgive me if this question has already been answered, but a white shirt in this video and a white shirt in the video from the drive way? What color uniform was K made to wear at his job?
I do not know but quite a few readers have now responded to that question and said a white shirt!
All materials show up differently, depending on there refractability and the individual setup of the camera system, not every dark color shows up white or visa versa.
I’m still trying to orient myself… was he walking on the sidewalk… ? The video to me looks like it is in the woods, and it looks like he is walking towards a house with a light on. Would you mind explaining one more time where this camera is/was, relative to where this person was walking?
These videos are giving me the creeps. And, making me angry. I’m sitting here in the middle of the night reading this, and I know other people said this same thing… that the suspense really frightened them and then they thought that must have been what you all were feeling. It’s really a horrible, horrible thing. It’s terrible that you all had to go through that.
This guy and the first pic guy are the same. You can tell by the angular features of his shoulders and the way his body moves. Also, the panicked run is very similar to attacking a camera…he reacts not responds. The second video is an acquaintance or friend who has been talked into fighting the real stalkers fight. A kinda “watch this!” Not expecting the dog….