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The Dr. Phil episode of Morgan\u2019s Stalking aired this week in Australia.\u00a0 No Forensic Psychologists wrote in to us this time, so those who did share their thoughts can’t testify in court about their\u00a0opinion, but they can certainly have one. And once again everyone thought that B.H. either was – not being truthful, had something to hide, was involved, or some combination of all three.<\/p>\n

Steve was always amazed that we went on the show and really presented no evidence at all.\u00a0 Yet the overwhelming conclusion of viewers not related to K. J. VanG. Who wrote into the blog or submitted a tip over the tip line was that – that girl on the show, B.H. was guilty of something, it was obvious to all.<\/p>\n

A real trial with witnesses and evidence is of course a bit more complex, but I\u2019d have to say I too was surprised that just the demeanor of B.H. on stage was enough for most everyone to make their decision.\u00a0 I wonder what will happen when they watch her being cross-examined before a judge and then they have to decide.\u00a0 Steve and I have to think actual confrontation on the false statements will tip the scales quite a bit more for Morgan.<\/p>\n

This very possibility of “looking bad”I would think drove the decision of K. J. VanG.\u2019s lawyer to not let him appear on the show.\u00a0 Wasn\u2019t that great by the way?\u00a0 The 20 second clip of their statement that they regretted not being on the show.\u00a0 Well wait, wouldn\u2019t the truth for not being on the show be that you feared the potential criminal exposure of your client(s).\u00a0 Wouldn\u2019t that be the truth? \u00a0And if you haven\u2019t done anything wrong, why do you fear potential criminal exposure, still have not figured that part out. \u00a0Really, how does that happen?<\/p>\n

Back in the states the favorite statement B.H. made was \u201cwhere\u2019s the proof\u201d, wow did that set everyone off.\u00a0 She was completely slammed in making, repeatedly, I guess, what was a clear indicator of guilt.\u00a0 I guess if you had thought you committed a crime and it was a perfect crime, no proof, no chance of ever being caught, a statement like that would make sense.<\/p>\n

But then maybe there is no such thing as the perfect crime.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think the detectives were fooled, they were told to stand down by superiors and they obeyed.\u00a0 Victims we were long before Morgan\u2019s death, but after she was killed the word victim took on a horrible new meaning.\u00a0 Our Sheriff Lou Vallario conceded that we were the real victims, and I really hope he meant Morgan too, because she was the biggest victim of us all. Horrific stalking, a horrible death, life snatched from her at age 20, and then to be labeled a suicide, when everything she believed in, and everything she stood for was quite the opposite of someone who would commit suicide. Evidently an entire story is all right there in the lab results.\u00a0 There just has not been anyone in Garfield County willing or able to read it yet.<\/p>\n

Meanwhile, I calmly as I can wait and agree with a group of doctors from many related specialties who say my daughter\u2019s death was anything but natural causes, and certainly not a suicide.\u00a0 They say it and I just could not agree more. The most revealing thing about this, and I say it with all the sarcasm I can muster, is that the doctors who have these opinions actually have reasons, they explain why in detail as to what they based their opinion on.\u00a0 And then they are in agreement with one another\u2019s opinions – all agree that is, except for Dr. Kurtzman, some have tried to talk with him about his opinions, he just won\u2019t answer, and now if you are not a forensic pathologist he won\u2019t talk to you at all, because, well lets just leave it at that.\u00a0 It\u2019s really quite sad, the corner he paints his profession into. \u00a0Aren’t forensic pathologists supposed to figure out the cause of death, and then if it is suspicious at all then put the manner down as undetermined until it can be investigated?<\/p>\n

Things are not as complex as he is making them, they seem very simple taken one at a time, once they are really explained, for instance the amount of Amitriptyline in Morgan’s blood was a huge, overkill, lethal amount, but the Amitriptyline in her gastric fluid is not even enough to be lethal, and in Dr Kurtzman\u2019s opinion, when he changed her manner of death to suicide he stated that the Amitriptyline in her gastric fluid was the lethal amount that killed her – this is not what killed Morgan.<\/span><\/p>\n

Dr. Kurtzman (8 + months after Morgan was murdered) changed her manner of death from natural causes to suicide based on a new test with Morgan’s gastric fluid. \u00a0He stated the Amitriptyline in her blood was insignificant on the first PER, but then changed her to suicide after the gastric fluid was tested, but get this, the Amitriptyline that was in her gastric fluid wasn’t enough to kill her. \u00a0Morgan supposedly killed herself by intentionally taking 18 \u2013 25mg. pills. First, we now know you can never tell how many pills someone took.\u00a0 Nobody can calculate that number.\u00a0 So why do we have a guess as to how many pills she took?\u00a0 What was the reason?\u00a0 Then is gets better, 18 \u2013 25mg pills is 450 mg., simple math 18 X 25 = 450.\u00a0 And it is not a lethal dose, yes you read that right, 450 mg. is not a lethal dose.\u00a0 Once again I welcome you to find a qualified expert who will testify that 450 mg. of Amitriptyline is a lethal dose.\u00a0 You\u2019ll have better luck trying to find a qualified expert that believes, and will testify that you can’t take 18 pills and not regurgitate at least part of them back up.\u00a0 Yes, that is just another issue in Morgan\u2019s death.\u00a0 So he says she took 18 pills when no one can say how many pills anyone took, did not regurgitate any of them back up, as is most common with Amitriptyline, and she had the full 450 mg., which is not a lethal dose, and that is how she supposedly committed suicide, according to Dr Kurtzman.<\/p>\n

Ever hear of the body of evidence? \u00a0Morgan’s body was cremated, but guess what? \u00a0They have all the samples that were taken at autopsy and tested, and we have the results of those tests. \u00a0Doesn’t matter if the test results were read incorrectly at the time – there are experts that can and have made sense out of them, and they are part of Morgan’s body and they are evidence, and they do tell a story…a story of murder.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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